MINUTES - Volusia County
ECHO Advisory Committee Meeting
January 11, 2006
Volusia County Council Chambers, DeLand, FL
Members
Present
Linda Hargreaves, Chair
Lorna Jean Hagstrom, Vice-Chair
Dennis Graven
William Grigat, Jr.
Peter Matulis
Charles Matousek
Stuart Sixma
Jack Wiles
Judson Woods
Members absent
Peter Matulis, Excused
Staff
Present
Jamie Seaman, County Attorney
Margaret Hodge, ECHO Program Coordinator
Jennifer Marshall, ECHO Program Assistant |
Visitors
signed in
Dorothy Dansberger, Sands Theater Center
Katrina Locke, VC Environmental Management
Kelli McGee, VC Environmental Management
James “Zach” Zacharias, Museum of Arts & Sciences
Theresa Brooks, City of DeLand
Barbara Storz, City of DeLand
Fred Schwenck, VC Facilities Services
Cy Butts, City of Deltona
Kathy Culligan, City of Deltona
Susanne Inman, VC Leisure Services
Jim Coombs, DeBary Art League
Sandra Wilson, DeBary Art League
Attachments
Grant Awards & Reimbursements to Date – Spreadsheet
2006 ECHO Grant Applicants & Grant Requests & Funding
2006 Grant Review Panel Procedures
ECHO List of Grants & Reallocation History
ECHO Grants – Distribution by Organization
ECHO Grants – Distribution by Category
Endangered Historic Properties in Volusia County
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I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL,
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS
Chair Hargreaves called the
January 11, 2006 ECHO Advisory Committee meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
and welcomed the Advisory Committee members and the public.
Chair Hargreaves asked staff to take the roll. A quorum was present with
all nine (9) members in attendance.
II. OLD BUSINESS
Chair Hargreaves opened
discussion by asking the Board Members if they wished to discuss any
activities they attended since the last Advisory Committee Meeting
on May 25, 2005.
Charles Matousek stated he attended the groundbreaking ceremony at
Sunflower Park in DeLand and at DeBary Hall.
III. STAFF REPORT
a. Update of Existing
Grants and Review of Grant History & Charts of Funding Distribution
Margaret Hodge mentioned
that the Lively Arts Center’s Grand Opening is on January 27, 2006.
She then began to discuss the contents of the agenda packet (see
attached), with the exception of item 2 – Approval – July 23, 2004
Minutes. This item was placed on the agenda in error. The first item
of discussion was an update to the existing grants. Ms. Hodge
directed the Advisory Committee to view the ECHO List of Grants and
Reallocation History printout.
Chair Hargreaves stated she appreciates that staff has created this
list of existing grants because, “the more we can see pictures, it
just helps us get a little bit better perspective.”
Margaret Hodge ended by clarifying that she has “crib notes” on this
printout, for herself, but she does have more detail on where things
shifted and why, to back up changes made to the tracking sheets.
Ms. Hodge then direct the Board to review the Grants Awards and
Reimbursements to Date spreadsheet. She explained that the
Reimbursement to Date column reflects exactly what has been paid to
date, to each grantee. The red Enc/Con column reflects Encumbrance
or Construction extensions that will be coming up in March of this
year. It is NA if the grant has been paid in full and, the job is
done. Some of the projects that reflect NA, the job is done but they
have not asked for all of their money, so CC is placed next to the
NA, indicating that construction is complete. Hodge further
explained that the 2003 projects would be completed soon and all of
the 2004, for the most part, are going to need construction
extensions. The 2004 grants are going into their third year of
construction, so, those construction extensions will go to County
Council for approval.
Chair Hargreaves asked Ms. Hodge, “When we are looking at things
that are taking so long, for an example, looking at Atlantic Center
for the Arts, how are our recipients responding to the fact that
labor’s gone up, materials going up and therefore their budgets are
all out the window in many cases. What do you see happening?”
Margaret Hodge stated that the grantees are dealing with it, for the
most part by raising more funds or tweaking the design that saves
them money. The County agreed to small changes. Anything greater
than 10%, Montye Beamer, the Director of Growth and Resource
Management, generally sends back to the ECHO Board. Hodge reminded
the Board that the Atlantic Center for the Arts, was the first
grantee to not get to the full grant amount and they also didn’t get
to readjust their project, based on a reduced grant award.
Charles Matousek stated he has some specific questions on some of
the older grants. (Mr. Matousek is referring to the Quarterly Report
distributed by staff to all Committee Member and the County Council
– copy attached). “The Atlantic Center for the Arts, I’m looking at
the 3rd Quarter Status Report, it is stated that they are were
scheduled to complete in November 2005. You’re telling us now that
they are going to complete in February ’06?”
Margaret Hodge “Yes, it is so close that they are going to ask for a
construction extension, because I take it all to County Council all
at one time. If I can pull it from that agenda item, I will. But,
they are thinking March, I believe.”
Charles Matousek “As you know, I’ve had a couple, and maybe others
have as well, inquiries from County Council Members regarding
shifting construction completion dates, because we are getting into
the fifth grant year and that project (Atlantic Center for the Arts)
in particular, is getting to be five (5) years old in another few
months and some of the grant awards, recipients of 2003 are also
getting kind of aged and I would feel more comfortable if you would
give us an update. I’m okay with ’02 and that project (referring to
The Atlantic Center for the Arts) and in ’03, the City of New Smryna
Beach, the Indian River Lagoon is still not completed.
Margaret Hodge stated that the delay for the New Smyrna project was
strictly due to issues with St. John’s River Water Management and
that the 2003 projects are going to get finished within the next
three to four months.
Charles Matousek “So that would be New Smyrna Beach, Indian River
Lagoon Project. The City of Deltona, Dewey Boster, was project
complete, but the grant is non-compliant. What is that?
Margaret Hodge “Unfortunately, this meeting is held before those new
reports are due. We will be receiving the new reports (4th quarter
reports) by January 15th and I will be sending something to you by
the end of the month.
Charles Matousek questioned the delays on the Volusia County Green
Spring Park.
Margaret Hodge requested the Project Coordinator address these
concerns.
Susanne Inman (Volusia County Leisure Services, our Green Springs
Park project) “If you recall, and for some of the new members this
is an update, we had a road, an entrance road alignment problem.
When they did some more studies, they found out it was impacting the
archeological site, and so we went back to the owners of the
original property and we went with County Council and we were able
to purchase a new piece of property. A little bit to the West of the
original entrance road, to make a new entrance road. Well, of course
once we got this new piece of property, it triggered a whole new set
of reviews by the Water Management District and a lot of Wetland
reviews. We are working through that right now and expecting to come
to fruition quite soon and we understand that it has taken quite a
long time, but we were in that position”.
Margaret Hodge explained that the County felt that delays are not
caused by grantees and that it is the process of construction,
contractors or permits.
Charles Matousek stated he had no other questions.
Chair Hargreaves asked if anyone else have any questions or
comments.
No one had additional questions.
b. Estimated Available Funding for 2006
Margaret Hodge directed the Board to the black notebook, for review
of funding. She explained that the Rollover amount has to be
approved by County Council on next Thursday (January 19, 2006). It
is on the consent agenda and the expected funding amount for 2006 is
$3,594,213.00
Charles Matousek asked Hodge to explain where the rollover funds
came from.
Margaret Hodge explained that it mainly came from earned interest.
Charles Matousek asked for clarification for the TITF and asked if
it was commonly called CRA’s (Community Redevelopment Agency); money
that goes back into the taxing district and doesn’t go into the
general fund.
Margaret Hodge agreed with his comment.
Chair Hargreaves asked if there were any other questions regarding
funding available for this year.
No one had additional questions.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
a. ECHO Eligible Applications
Margaret Hodge directed the Board to the second sheet in the black
book, Addendum Information. She explained the County felt that
everyone is eligible and there were no major missing documents (2).
There were errors in calculations. Hodge further explained how to
read the spreadsheet and details regarding the grantees.
Hodge made one correction on 06-13, Sands Theater, 3.3 was added
under Tab 3. She explained that she was trying to get clarification
and it had been provided but too late to be included in the 06-13
addendum package. She will mail this to the Board Members in the
next week or two.
Lorna Jean Hagstrom asked if all grants were on time.
Margaret Hodge stated all projects were on time with no major
documentation missing.
Charles Matousek “Ms. Chairman, I would suggest that we go through
all of these individually, but frankly it looks like they were all
eligible, minimal amounts of missing documents, I don’t know that we
need to go through them all”.
Chair Hargreaves requested the members to look through the
information provided and if they had a question they would have
Margaret Hodge go over the item in more detail at this time. “The
information is obviously well provided and with the timeliness and
completeness, that’s an excellent note on the applicants part”.
Margaret Hodge then explained to the members what was in their black
scoring book. She explained the score sheet had not changed.
Following the score sheet is the Final Review by staff, with staff
comments. She stated that some comments by staff are to clarify
items in the application after she spoke with the applicant. Some
comments are relative to items provided in the addendum package.
Last in the black book are the ECHO (blank) Applications and Guides
for 2006.
Chair Hargreaves “Are there any questions on how this book is set up
and how to use it? Margaret, while we’re looking at 06-01 and the
evaluation sheet, do you want to talk about scoring? I know that’s
the review process, but in terms of scoring, we have this one, we
sign and we date it, with the date of our meeting, not the date we
sign it.
Margaret Hodge explained that where the form says “review score”, is
where members insert their preliminary score and members are not
held to that score. On the day of ranking, members may want to ask
questions of the applicant that changes that original review score.
She explained that members must put the final score in the outside
column the day of ranking and are not to circle the review score. On
February 22, members will enter in final scores and tally at the
bottom.
Chair Hargreaves reminded members to sign and date the score sheet.
Margaret Hodge I think the other thing you wanted to talk about was
“comments.”
Chair Hargreaves “That is correct. One of the things we discussed
last time, and if you’ll remember one of the things that we always
do after every grant awarding process, is we get feedback from the
applicants. One of the things that we consistently heard was that,
they wanted us to give them more information in the actual scoring
process. Please give them more information. Not only why you scored
them low, but also help them understand what they did correctly.
That’s not only valuable to them, it may also be valuable to them
the next time they do it and it may also be valuable to anyone else
that has an opportunity to look at that grant. And those are still
here available in the Library, for any other applicant to come look
at and see what others have done well. As a review panel we should
really be as complete as we can possibly be. If you have a chance,
will have a chance I hope that prior to starting to read these
(applications) you’ll go back over what the committee did last year.
I found that very, very helpful myself. At the end of the grant
period when those score sheets were provided back to us, I found
reviewing others comments to be very helpful, and it allowed me to
see how other members see it, as well as, to see how I can improve
the responses and information that I was giving to the applicants. I
think we owe them (the applicants) that. So, if we can be as
diligent as we can, don’t be wordy, just give good information. I
think that will be very helpful.”
Dennis Graven “With that said, and I’ve traded a couple of emails
with Margaret about this: I think that we could set this (scoring
form) up in a digital format. We could actually go in and insert our
comments and not have to do everything in long hand. It would be a
lot less cumbersome. Personally, I think it would be a little more
professional. I just wish maybe we would consider that. You would
not have to do it, but you would have the opportunity to have the
digital format at your disposal.”
Lorna Jean Hagstrom “For someone that is non-technologically
exposed, can you please tell me what you are talking about”?
Dennis Graven “You could set this up in like a Word file and then
you just go in and it has a space”.
Margaret Hodge suggested that the Board discuss this during their
summer review.
Chair Hargreaves concurred.
Dennis Graven asked if he could play around with the idea and work
with Margaret?
Chair Hargreaves asked if anyone was in opposition to the request
and everyone agreed that Mr. Graven could move forward with this
option.
Chair Hargreaves then moved to the grading and ranking items.
b. Grading and ranking process
Margaret Hodge directed the Board to the green file folder. She
suggested the Board insert them into the black score book. She
stated nothing changed from last year. She stated that the only
thing removed had to do with exceptional projects because there are
no exceptional projects in 2006. She asked if all members ranked
projects in 2005 and were not familiar with the process.
Chair Hargreaves reminded the Board that Mr. Grigat did not attend
the previous ranking meeting.
Margaret Hodge stated that if Mr. Grigat had questions she would be
happy to provide additional details.
Chair Hargreaves explained the process. “We ask the applicant to
come forward and we ask them questions, they are not allowed to
present new information, it is basically an opportunity for
clarification. If there is something you made a note on, that you
didn’t understand or see as conflicting, whatever, it gives you the
chance to ask the applicant something that clarifies it and that may
assist them in bettering their score. So it is an opportunity, they
may not present visual aids, they may not distribute additional
information, unless it is something specific that has been asked for
by Margaret, and that’s very seldom. We’re trying to get away from
that. So it’s really just an opportunity for clarification time.
It’s a short opportunity and each of us make any changes, should we
need them on our scoring sheet and then we are selected at random to
start, so the same person doesn’t start divulging their scores, it
goes randomly and then everyone submits their score. It is recorded
electronically and we draw out the high and the low and that gives
us the average score for that grant application. I would like to
draw your attention to the bottom of that page, page 1 of 2,
paragraph 6, the second paragraph, just reminding you of what
happens if there is a tie. What happens to the last grant and what
our options are. For example, if the last applicant is not fully
funded, and if the applicant refuses the offer of partial funding,
then the Panel may continue to offer the funds to eligible
applicants in the order listed or the funds may be rolled over to
the next grant cycle. This decision is determined by a majority vote
of the Grant Review Panel members. And, then whatever our
recommendation might be, that of course is passed on with our
recommendation (to the County Council). Remind yourselves we are not
decision makers here. We are an Advisory Committee to give advice to
the County Council. Just a reminder of how those later funds might
be used. It talks about tied applicants, because those have
obviously come up in the past. We are trying to address issues as
they come forward. We have also identified in paragraph 6, that
applicants who score 69.999 or lower are not eligible. We discussed
quality of grants. At this time, we have all agreed that it is our
perception of the quality and scoring will be based on what our
responses are”.
She then asked if there was anything else to discuss.
Margaret Hodge “The only thing I wanted to remind you about, and I
don’t have a copy of the resolution right in front of me, but when
you’re determining funding, the Resolution states that it is based
on the quality of the project. It doesn’t have to be (and I gave you
those charts), it doesn’t have to be a 25 percent to E, 25 percent
to C, etc. Over time, it seems to have balanced itself out,
similarly with the type of applicants. But the main thing in the
Resolution is, distribution to the E C H O categories appropriately,
is the way it is stated”.
Chair Hargreaves “I think the Resolution also states, if I recall,
it states that it should have County wide impact. Staff Completeness
Review Sheets, we’ve done. Panel Score-Sheet books, preliminary
score, comments and final ranking, we’ve done”.
Margaret Hodge stated the Board needed to officially accept the full
application list.
Lorna Jean Hagstrom moved to approve the application list as
distributed.
Charles Matousek seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
IV. Public Participation
Chair Hargreaves addressed
the public and asked if anyone had anything to say. No one
responded.
She reminded the public to be here the next time we get together and
asked Ms. Hodge about requirement to be at the ranking meeting.
Margaret Hodge responded yes. “Be here and don’t…just know what your
number is and, don’t expect your number to not come up early.
Sometimes these members get through an application quickly. If
you’re number 12, don’t think noon. It is a good experience to go
through and listen to the previous applicants and the questions
posed. With some applicants it helps them respond later when they
are asked a similar question or certainly even if those people not
applying this year want to come, they are welcome. It is a good
experience, so they can see how that process works on the ranking
day”.
V. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hargreaves hearing no
other business adjourned the meeting at 3:55p.m.
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